Side-Effects of Long-Term Denial

[elordini]

I've been playing with teasing and denial pretty much since I started masturbating. For as long as I can remember, I masturbate by bringing myself to the edge and either staying there for a while or falling back and then getting back to the edge over and over. But, until recently I've never gone more than a few days. It's been maybe two weeks since my last orgasm and I was working myself up to a frenzy today. I edged several times -- they weren't the kind of edges where you have to tense your whole body to hold back an impending orgasm, they were more like I just had to stop touching myself. An hour or so later, I had to pee and I noticed what was certainly semen in my urine. On other occasions after edging, I've noticed my a lot of bubbles (another sign of semen). I don't think they are the result of "retrograde orgasms". As I said, I wasn't really close enough to have an orgasm and, when I do, it comes out the right hole

On this topic, I have three questions:

1. Has anyone else noticed this before? Or, is this normal?
2. Do you think this reduces the effect of denial on my level of arousal? -- I don't know if this is real, but some fiction I've read talks about semen "building up" while suggesting that said build up increases arousal as well as general aching.
3. This brings up my last question -- according to the general zeitgeist, edging and masturbation increase arousal during periods of denial. Is this really true? When I'm not masturbating, I'm not sure I notice any difference. Honestly, given the way my body feels, it might have just been a day or two since my last orgasm. On the other hand, when I am masturbating, there are times when I feel like I just can not stop touching myself. I have noticed that, when I feel that, I am most likely to fail and continue to push myself past the point where I can stop from going over the edge. Alternatively, I have been wondering what it might feel like to not touch myself at all during a period of denial. Would that make me more or less aroused?

[sissyslut79]

Denial means not touching or physically manipulating yourself in anyway... have you ever tried a chastity device of any kind?

[curved]

During long term denial I have similar to what you describe. Outside of masturbation sessions there is little difference - but during a session I am far more aroused.

I occasionally have semen in urine stuff at the time. I don't think it's a big deal.

I tried chastity and total denial but it seemed to make me even less aroused when I took the thing off after a week or so. This worried me a bit so I stopped it. I now prefer shorter unassisted total denial periods with plenty of edging and ruined orgasms in between - denial of full orgasm but not touching and playing. Not for the purist perhaps but more fun, which is what it is all about...

[janmb]

Denial means not touching or physically manipulating yourself in anyway... have you ever tried a chastity device of any kind?

This is a little off topic, but if you want to discuss terms:

This depends entirely on what you are in fact being denied. In most cases, Tease and Denial - as the term would suggest - means being teased/aroused/stimulated while being denied a proper orgasm. As such, the denial aspect usually refers to orgasm/release, not stimulation. In fact, the very contrary is usually the case.

Merely being asexual is a lot easier than being teased without release.


As for the topic at hand, no I have never experienced what the OP describes myself, even after 30+ days of denial.

[SexualChoc]

elordini.

first it is VERY normal to have semen in pee
this actually occurs naturally
the body can only hold so much
after 3 days your sperm die in your balls, they are flushed out in pee
and you refill.

This is why Good Hydration is very important to Denial.

second semen does slowly build up even with natural release (above) I am very certain of this though I have not seen scientific proof, just speaking from my own experiences.

third Yes absolutely, this I am 100% sure of
If you really want serious long term denial the way to do it is the way Religious monks do
(of various beliefs) Eliminate all visual stimulation, then keep yourself extremely busy and usually in public so opportunity does not happen, lastly live in a support group (like a monastery )
do this you can go without sex... or masturbating for many years.

obviously that is going very extreme/

but denials here is best doing the things that DO turn you on so you WANT but don't have
so masturbation fine, edging, yup, porn too.
Some do "no touch" days be even then it good to do some kind of visual or audio stimulation (stare at all women for instance)

hope that helps

[tanqueray2]

I found during Little Miss Jay's "Blue Balls Challenge" that no touching at all was far more frustrating and arousing than constant edges.

Also, when I have had sex after lots of edging I am not as excited as I am after a period of no touching at all. Sex after a week of no touching or porn is awesome.

[elordini]

Thanks guys, this is exactly the kind of discussion I was looking for. My questions are more motivated by figuring out the real mechanics of tease & denial with a healthy dose of skepticism in the interest of improving the tools we have to tease ourselves and others. I posted a similar question on another forum, but this seems to be the best place to have it.

Also, when I have had sex after lots of edging I am not as excited as I am after a period of no touching at all. Sex after a week of no touching or porn is awesome.

I've noticed something like this too and it seems paradoxical. If we're saying that some stimulation enhances arousal during periods or orgasm denial, why would no stimulation enhance the experience of sex? I can see why one or the other might be true, but I can't figure out how they could both be true.

If you really want serious long term denial the way to do it is the way Religious monks do
(of various beliefs) Eliminate all visual stimulation, then keep yourself extremely busy and usually in public so opportunity does not happen, lastly live in a support group (like a monastery )
do this you can go without sex... or masturbating for many years.

This makes sense to me. In your example, Monks restrict the opportunity to have an orgasm (at least through physical stimulation). With fewer opportunities, there's logically a lower likelihood that someone will make a "mistake". Another interesting questions would be what happens to such individuals when provided with a sexual opportunity after 1 month? 2 months? a year? 10 years? Would their experience of arousal during that sexual encounter continue to increase given longer and longer periods of denial (kind of like what tanqueray2 suggested)? Or, might it increase for a bit and then taper off? Maybe, if you go too long without an orgasm, the ability of have one decreases (or, their intensity decreases)?

I once heard a story about a 60 or 70 year old woman who gone her entire life without having one until she attended a sex seminar and was encouraged to try pleasuring herself in the bathtub -- and, she experienced her first orgasm. So, going a long time probably doesn't make it impossible to have an orgasm.