Captured, bound and at the mercy....of who?

[duke_no_cum]

I was looking at the Great tips for pleasing your Mistress and made a comment about not liking Nina Hartley.
http://www.milovana.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1916

I was wondering what people thought of being at the mercy of someone they didn't like.

Who would you like to be at the mercy of?

Who wouldn't you want to be at the mercy of?

[jason]

I have to say, that's actually one of the things I fantasize about. My fantasies involve not someone I like, or who likes me, but someone who actually hates me and will take great pleasure in...doing things that I don't like.

But there's no person that I can think of that I can place in that fantasy, there's types of people that I like in that fantasy. Often they're not attractive people, but not overwhelmingly foul-appearing, other times, I'm the average one and they're stunningly beautiful.

[cumhardy]

Yeah I have a weird fantasy about being restrained and dominated by a hugely unattractive, obese, hairy woman with poor personal hygene. Perhaps being forced to clean her entire body with my tongue!

Not someone that I hate as in I dislike them personally, just appearance-wise.

[Makarov]

Yeah, I'd rather jerk off then submit to someone I didn't find sexually appealing.

[sopwath]

Yeah, I'd rather jerk off then submit to someone I didn't find sexually appealing.

I agree.

cumhardy, I think I just threw up in mouth a little.

[cumhardy]

cumhardy, I think I just threw up in mouth a little.

Glad I could be of service!

[free]

Aaahh I love interesting topics. Here's my ramblings on the matter:

I’m with you cumhardy. One of my fantasies also involves being dominated by an obese, ugly, smelly woman. It stands to perfect reason that if it is filth (as expressed in such kinks as ass-licking, golden showers etc) that excites, then the filthiest thing will be the most exciting. It won’t be true for everyone because people have their individual limits – but the notion validates anyone’s interest in this sort of thing. Humiliation, cuckoldry, denial, masochism: all these kinks are tied up with the fantasy of experiencing something you don’t want to (but of course you do!) So again it’s easy to see why domination by someone you don’t like is attractive.

Sade understood the attraction of the grotesque along time ago. He comments in 120 Days of Sodom that beauty is the common thing, but ugliness is the uncommon thing with the real power to titillate and many of his characters are filthy and grotesque in the extreme.

I often fantasise about being dominated by a female I intensely dislike too: usually an imaginary female as I try not to dwell on dislike for anyone! But yeah – sometimes you’ve had an argument with a female friend or something and they’ve made you real mad and angry, maybe even very upset. Then it is sooo hot for me to imagine submitting totally to them and being humiliated and used by them.

I also fantasise about being dominated by a woman “ugly on the inside” to use a figure of speech. It’s very hot for me to imagine being dominated by a woman who is totally corrupt and completely lacking in any kind of morals. I’ll even pretend I’m super-innocent and virtuous (ha!) to amplify the contrast to her evilness in my mind. The basic idea is nothing new – just browsing the teases here reveals the women doing the dominating are often sadistic and nasty rather than sweet. I even get more specific than this in my fantasising: I’ll sometimes create a dominant fantasy woman in my mind who holds an exact opposite ethical or moral principle to myself. For example, a woman who is racist or something like that.

They’re all different facets of the same psychological process I suspect. The common theme when you wittle it down seems to be the idea of being forced in someway to submit to something you don’t want to. So coming back to the original thing: submitting to someone you don’t like – very unextraordinary really.

[cumhardy]

Cheers Free, Im glad I'm not the only one! BTW, is there a term for the 'filthy fat woman' fetish? I would love to search for some images for a tease.

Also on this topic of being dominated by someone you hate: Ive noticed on the 'forced bi' thread a lot of people are into the idea (including me). I'm guessing its popular for the same reason. As a straight guy, being dominated by another man would be the complete opposite of what I would actually want so it becomes even more appealing somehow.

[jason]

I think free has it with the bit about 120 days of Sodom, and while I don't go near as far as him and cumhardy on the appearance (and thank you for those mental images, I don't think I'll need a CB anymore)

Typically, like free I fantasize about a woman who is completely unethical, and I'm fairly innocent (though, often not completely innocent, which she manipulates). She's usually got an extremely ugly character, but physically attractive (though often a slightly stern appearance).

When I fantasize about actually being a female, though, all bounds of appearance go out the window, the idea of me being a beautiful woman captured by something like the mutants from "The Hills Have Eyes"...

Likewise, I like the idea of ethical opposites, someone with the worst ideas of racism, sexism having power over me. Or criminal vs. innocent...

[Nikki]

– sometimes you’ve had an argument with a female friend or something and they’ve made you real mad and angry, maybe even very upset. Then it is sooo hot for me to imagine submitting totally to them and being humiliated and used by them.

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That is great that was fun to read.. thank you for sharing.

Nikki

[free]

Firstly Nikki – glad to be of service, and mutually beneficial coz I’m ever so slightly turned on imagining you laughing at me for this! Maybe you're not but a guy can dream! Anywaaaaay – yeah: you just never know do you? Who knows what the next guy you fall out with goes home to do!

Cumhardy – I don’t think there’s any name for a “grotesque woman” fetish, not that I know of anyway. Sometimes I enjoy looking at porn from “mature” sites: “granny porn” seems to be a bit of a scene and I expect you could find some pics of ladies … past their prime shall we say, to use for teases. There are a few teases on here actually with some older women that are good, but I wouldn’t say a LOT OLDER or even ugly really. See if you can push the boundaries!

Continuing the literature rant…..Rabelaisian is an adjective to describe a character in works of fiction that is larger than life in an ugly, filthy and crude way. Often physically larger than life too. Comes from the name of the French author Rabelais because of the character he created called Gargantua. I’ve not read that novel but Jeanette Winterson’s novel “Sexing the Cherry” has a typically Rabelaisian female character in it and that’s a real nice book. Not an erotic novel at all, and probably not worth reading to that end (even if a woman who has a fanny the size and cleanliness of a dirty bucket is what does it for you) – still: thought I’d mention it.

[cumhardy]

See if you can push the boundaries!

http://www.milovana.com/webteases/showtease.php?id=2739

[Lindsey]

Firstly Nikki – glad to be of service, and mutually beneficial coz I’m ever so slightly turned on imagining you laughing at me for this! Maybe you're not but a guy can dream! Anywaaaaay – yeah: you just never know do you? Who knows what the next guy you fall out with goes home to do!

This is very honest of you. 9! ;)

-L

[Makarov]

Ahh...now that's a different fantasy. It's one thing to fantasize about a woman even more horrible then the entire film of Dr. Zhivago, and it's another to fantasize about a woman that hates you. In regards to my version of the fantasy, the only requirement is for her to be sexually appealing, and all her attempts at genital torture someone physically manifest themselves as cock strokes. And eventually orgasm.

[Marke]

I have often fantasized about being at the mercy of an ex.

There are many revenge type fantasies in this area and I recall seeing some teases built around this idea.

Sigh, if only I had time.

I had a narrow escape from being entrapped by a woman once and felt dreadful about it ever after and weaved quiet an involved fantasy about how she could have stopped my escape.

It wasn't a lot of fun as she had gone to a lot of trouble and I really did like her, but I was on the rebound and had been given a lot to drink and I think the main thing was that I was suffering from performance anxiety. When I call her a woman she was a real woman, curvaceous, flirtatious and out spoken, not at all like my usual girlfriends.

So we got as far as the bedroom and I ran away. Literally, well, called a taxi and made my excuses.

There is lots more to say, but it will have to wait I’m afraid.