[Release] Cock Hero - Getting Rough

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[Release] Cock Hero - Getting Rough

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Hi everyone,

Just released my first cock hero video and since this community is basically what got me into it, I thought I'dd let you know ;-)

http://www.empornium.me/torrents.php?id=254318

It's a 48 minutes long, bondage themed video with 13 rounds. There are no slow beats and (almost) no breaks between the rounds. The video starts with teasing and light bondage and gets faster and rougher (hence the name) with every round. You can find a more detailed description and screenshots on the download site.

Hope you like it :wave:

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Streaming now available: http://www.cockhero.info/cock-hero-getting-rough/
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Is there another means to share that file? I've signed up with Empornium a couple of times, and my accounts keep being disabled for lack of use.
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elvisomar wrote:Is there another means to share that file? I've signed up with Empornium a couple of times, and my accounts keep being disabled for lack of use.
I second that. While empornium is definitely a great way to share porn, a lot of people will miss out since it is a private torrent site. Can you consider an alternate means as well (mega.co.nz for e.g.)?
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elvisomar wrote:Is there another means to share that file? I've signed up with Empornium a couple of times, and my accounts keep being disabled for lack of use.
I originally planned on uploading it to megaupload or something similar too, but since the feds keep seizing and blocking those sites I wanted to play it safe and stick to a private tracker. :-/

If someone wants to redistribute this via other means (public tracker, cockhero.info, etc.) feel free to do so.
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I downloaded from Emp a few days ago and i must say I'm really looking forward to your next video! :-D
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While the content isn't my taste i have to say thats maybe one of the Top 3 ever created Cock Heros. Can't believe it's your first.
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I really liked this one. The initial warm-up and get-started scenes include most of the girls that really turn my crank -- the creator and I evidently share the same predilections -- and many other aspects are also really well done as far as technical editing ability goes.
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For example, the multi-scene is very very well done. A significant portion of one of the last rounds is a multiple-scene montage, with several rectangles of action all going at once next to each other, and that usually bugs me -- usually it's just too distracting, I want ONE chick to focus on! But in this video, the multi-scenes fade into one or another larger sub-scene that becomes the focus for a period of time, thus allowing for focus on one chick, all the while retaining the multi-scene in the background in a way that enabled a type of overwhelming over-stimulation of excess. Best of both worlds! Many many hot chicks all going at once; but also, one hot chick to focus on at any given time. Very nice. :)

It's the best beat meter out there, I think. The creator of this video should write up a primer of how he created it. It always matches the music, nicely. Everybody agrees that it can be really distracting when a video's creator lacks enough musical sense (either training, or just innate talent) to make sure of that fact. This one is good. And, it is built perfectly, IMO. It has a visual scrolling horizontal pulse-bar with a tick-mark at the point where the moving pulses pass the beat, like most CH's; and it also has a textual indication of a "name" of the meter that appears in advance of the beat change, like most better CH's; and, it has the innovation, that the textual name itself bounces up and down TO THE PROPER BEAT at the initiation of every new beat-pattern. This is about the most elaborate of any of the CH beat-meters (aside from some of the trickier changes in the Corruption series) but it wasn't obtrusive or distracting at all.

The musical credits are given at the beginning of every song. Nice innovation. Everyone should do that. Some of the songs are classic rock (do I recall something by Queen? IIRC ...) but there are a few of the modern electro club dance whatever the fuck you kids call it, too.

Some of the content gets into the bondage and forced-orgasms zone but it's not to an extreme. I'd almost call it mainstream, maybe "vanilla kink" if that's a term? There have been more extreme scenes in lots of other cock hero videos in the past. I think the creator did himself a disservice by warning about the bondage here on the thread at Milovana. I guess he did need to let us know they were coming up, so it would have been inappropriate NOT to mention them, but they turn out to be less central than I had expected. The focus on bondage is a lot less than what the thread led me to expect.

Some other content is that squeaky dumb Hentai stuff, really badly drawn (deliberately so) almost silly cartoons in Saturday-morning Bugs Bunny style, mostly censored so the dicks are obscured by that Japanese squares-block-out method. There are two full rounds of those, each with equivalently frenetic, hyper-active music. I hate those images and I hate the music. Is it just me? Anyway, the video creator does a neat job of synchronizing the Hentai chicks and their ridiculous bouncing boobies to the ridiculous bouncing music, so there's some entertainment value in it. Otherwise, for me the Hentai scenes are definite turn-offs, they take a lot of manual energy to keep up with the crazy-fast beats and they're not very sexual or horny at all, IMO.

Thus, for me, the video creation qualities are top notch, perhaps among the best two or three in terms of technical editing skill of the basic variety. There aren't a lot of very-fancy editing tricks, but the basic tricks are used nearly to perfection. Maybe just a few too many jump-cuts and fast changes from girl to girl. I want more time on each, to give my horny brain a good long chance to really focus on her before she disappears. Most of the scenes are extremely hot, right in line with my personal preferences for the types of girls, the Lexi Belle and Malena Morgan sorts of people doing Point-of-View and direct stimulation and nothing ridiculously "Oh My God Did She Really Let Him Do That?" style. Hardcore more than vanilla but less than extreme. But the more off-the-wall scenes -- some of the bondage; and nearly all of the Hentai -- are so off-the-wall as to be uninteresting to me. I may re-edit this to cut out the Hentai entirely, because most of it is an extremely positive and stimulating experience for me.

Thanks for your efforts, mister Liquid! Would you consider doing one that is mostly vanilla hardcore? Or maybe point-of-view? And just a LITTLE tiny bit less frenetic and silly? I'd be thrilled for a second effort to come from this creator. Thanks!
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Wow, thanks for that detailed response, a lot of useful information there.

I was struggling with the decision whether to include the hentai rounds or not because I was worried that I would have no target audience left if I kept them ^^ - I kept it because I was dragging out this project for months already and it would have been too short otherwise.

A nice side-effect of this dragging out was that I had a lot of time to work on the beat-bar (Remade it from scratch a couple of times) because I think it can make or break a video. I've seen a lot of cock hero videos with brilliant content but shitty beat-bars.

The biggest deal breakers in my opinion are:
  • Audio and beat bar out of sync
    Complicated or non-repetetive beats
    No indication of beat change
Since all my templates (Beatbar itself, indicators, progress bars, audio samples, etc.) are done, I'll be a lot faster with the next one - now it's just a matter of motivation, material and stamina ;-)
I don't know if anyone noticed, but there are two little progress bars (above and below the beatbar) that indicate the progress of the round and the entire video.

My checklist for a (possible) next video so far:
  • lose the hentai stuff
    stick to rock :yes:
    dont get too crazy with the kinks
    long cuts to give a horny brain time to adapt
    include some (or exclusively) pov
I don't expect this next video to be done anytime soon (I started this one in December '14) but when it is, I'll make sure to drop by to let you all know. If I'm stuck again I'll probably just chip in a few rounds for one of the CH collaborations here.

btw: Seems like private trackers aren't the preferred method of distribution here, any recommendations for file/video hosting atm?

Edit: Almost forgot - When I get the time, I'll post a little tutorial for premiere pro here on how to make a proper beat-bar. I think that could really Improve a lot of videos ;-)
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Can anyone make a public torrent? :D

Feedback sounds great!
Best wishes - SK :oldtimer:
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Since Liquid gave his blessing, here is a public torrent. Please seed as long as you can.
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My problem wasn't that you included hentai rounds, it was that they didn't really fit the theme of the rest of the video. Had you chosen scenes from Bible Black or other similar videos that actually fit the theme they would have been great.

Well, the beats and music were a bit excessive in the hentai rounds too.

So if you tone back the hentai beats and make the scenes you choose fit the theme of the whole video I don't see any reason to stop doing hentai rounds.

But yeah that beat meter, best I've seen.

And the video as a whole was great too.
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Since you seem pretty open to feedback, I'll write a short post to let you know that I liked almost everything about your creation, with just two exceptions:

1. The first is simply a matter of personal taste, and I know that not everyone will feel the same way. I didn't care for the hentai rounds. I guess you've already gotten this feedback from others, but I have to admit that I will always skip hentai rounds. I loved CH QT, for example, except the last (hentai) round. Even if you followed Alchemus' suggestion to find hentai that fit the theme better, I'd still skip it. I guess I've just never understood the appeal.

2. I loved your re-design of the beat meter. The two status bars--very cool. The bouncy part that actually shows you what to do, while telling you at the same time--perfect. Except...the bouncy part also covered up a lot of the action. Turns out that the most obvious place to put that is also the focal point of many of the scenes. Often, it completely obscured the copulation. It's not a problem when the beat is changing infrequently, but in many parts of the video the beat was changing often enough that the obscuring of the porn got really annoying to me. I'm not sure how you would fix that, unless you experimented with opacity. But I'm guessing that would make rendering a lot more intensive. So...I'm not sure there's a lot you can do about the problem. I just hadn't seen anyone bring it up yet, so I thought I'd point out what is admittedly a pretty minor flaw when compared to the otherwise greatness of the beat meter you've designed.

Overall, of course, a really great CH and I'm glad to hear you're considering another one!
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Looking at all that feedback, I'm seriously considering a "Remastered" edition ^^
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Liquid wrote:Looking at all that feedback, I'm seriously considering a "Remastered" edition ^^
Hello and thanks for great vid! I really enjoyed playing even thou hentai is not usually my cup of tea.
Maybe it'll be more productive to spend your efforts in making Getting Rough 2?
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Waiting it on some streaming site...
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