I think I've seen ruined orgasm vids where their fingers are around the shaft, so I don't see why it'd be any different with penetration, theoretically.
oh, the shaft is perfectly OK. It doesn't feel much at all to start with - just the normal skin. Seen teases where you are commanded to edge by stroking shaft only tho, but it seems impossible to me.
The shaft is ok. But when head gets stimulated against the vaginal walls - let's say there are really VERY little stimulation needed for the head to make difference between normal orgasm and a ruined one.
As I said I'll try it with fleshlight and see what happens.
What do you do during masturbation? Just hold your hand around the head? The shaft? Or let go completely?
You meen to ruin one? Not that I do it a lot, but I can eather let go completely or hold it by the shaft - doesn't matter. As I said my shaft isn't some pleasure spot at all. But it's normally easyer just to let go, because on the edge the mind is foggy, And it's easyer just to take your hand completely away.
True, this all may depend on how the two people fit together. I'm thinking though with just sitting on him that the tip will, like you said, be able to twitch against the back wall potentially. So if we can take that away we should, ideally. I mean if she's sitting with her full weight on him...that has to be a little pleasurable, I would think.
I don't think just sitting is pleasurable. If the girl squeeze kegels or move - it may be. But sitting tight is the best way I see to stay still. Because if you try to do it otherwise, like you said, near the wall - you should consider that our body is always in motion, rocking a bit back and forth. We always balance, thus moving a bit. I want to say that any attempt to stay very still while the partner's dick is not fully inside (as I understand you were talking about) is not so easy. We always move. The only good way to stay still to him would be to be tightly pressed against each other, so that while your bodies still move, they move together. That's my imho.
As I said before, I don't think you should bother that much about the twitching against the back wall of the vagina. It's rather that every twitch thrusts the penis a little inside. It's not like it only jumps up and down. And that thrusting movement (even a half cm long) is what is to most likely turn a ruined orgasm into a full one. Besides it's easy to stop the stimuli with hand. It's not so easy while fucking him, because your body still has a great mass and innertion. That would be a great idea to try it like that:
Say a girl is on top, all goes it's way, then when he says that he's on the edge, a girl starts making full deep hard thrusts but 1 at a time. So she stops on the downstroke and waits for the reaction. That should be enough to get orgasm, tho not enough to make it full. Off course the man should be willing to do it too.
And in the best scenario he'd be edged a bit before a ruin.
Also a great idea (not for ruined) to not actually stop even for a second. Let him cum, continue fucking, or even make it faster. He's oversensitive? Who the hell cares?
The idea is to make sure the guy can't thrust at all. I wouldn't trust a guy to not thrust when he's nutting, especially during sex.
I ment so he CAN'T thrust, off course. How do you se this? How to you fix him the way hat he cant move hes waist at all? That'd be some severe and very tight bondage. Something that's hard to make at home.
I thought a ruined orgasm is a "full" orgasm as well -- with contractions, ball spasming, euphoria, and semen shooting out
yes it is. But it may be that less actual semen is there and more precum. I meen that it won't ampty the balls as much as a normal one. Normal sperm may be pretty... what's the word?... pretty white, hard... more material less water in it. And the ruined orgasm cum may be watery, like lube, with just a little of actual white semen in it.
but dramatically less pleasurable than it's supposed to be, which causes frustration and isn't as satisfying.
I'd say that it's pleasurable, very indeed, but it doesn't bring satisfaction.
I thought the thing where you let semen out is called milking, which you can do either with prostate massaging or by edging him so many times that it starts to leak out, and that you can milk a guy without ever causing him to orgasm. Where am I wrong?
You see, male cum is born it two organs. The actual semen, i.e. white fast guys who make a half of the child, is born in testicles. It's rather small ammount actually, a few drops.
It's mixed with prostate fluids, which are clear and has no colour (but has taste and smell) ant those fluids are about 90-95% of the actual cum that you see shooting out. so our balls produce very little indeed. It may save up a bit but not so much.
During edging - the prostate get's a signalt that it's almost time, and starts mass production. If the edging continues, it eventually overflows the gland, goes down the urethra and starts leaking out.
Prostate milking stimulates the gland to produce precum by not edging, but manual stimulation.
Precum is basically the core of the cum. But it doesn't have anything to do with balls. That's what milking.
The ruined orgasm is a bit of the other sort. It's when our orgasm mechanism is starting to work, but works halfway. It gets the kegel muscles to pump up the prostate, emit lots of precum in the channels, mix it with semen a bit... But then it goes like "What the hell? the sex is actually stopped?!" and stopps the process. I believe this is done to save up semen in the balls, if the sexual act is interrupted. Thus we get a man happyly shooting out mostly precum, and staying hard and wanting. It does contains a bit of semen in it, but less normally.
It seems you could milk a guy with your pussy too, it would just be a lot more difficult and you wouldn't know when semen was leaking out. Well, I guess he could tell you.
Edge him a few times with pussy and be sure some of the precum leaked inside you and mixed with your own juices.
The problem of ruining by pussy, I repeat, is that it actually takes very little stimulation to differ a ruined orgasm from normal. Our body simply needs to know that our dick is inside a vagina, by sensing the stimulation of the head - and then he doesn't need to save the cum and shoots it full. That's my IMHO.
The less he can focus on what his dick is doing the better, I thought.
That may postpone the orgasm itself, but not help it to ruin, I think. The more distractions, the less the arousal. If you feel pain yur mind distracts from cumming and you can pump in longer. As well as if you start doing some math, like continiously dividing numbers. But that's not what helps yu to ruin I THINK. I'm not sure. It helps you last longer. But the process behind ruined orgasm has less to do with distraction I think.